So in my book I'm going to state the Russel only had a formal education through the seventh grade. I just want to be accurate.
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Question....Did Charles Russel Ever Finish High School?
by new boy ini saw john cedars show last night about when he visited the headquarters and this was mentioned.. this is the first i heard of this.
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Question....Did Charles Russel Ever Finish High School?
by new boy ini saw john cedars show last night about when he visited the headquarters and this was mentioned.. this is the first i heard of this.
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new boy
I saw John Cedars show last night about when he visited the Headquarters and this was mentioned.
This is the first I heard of this.
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Is The Person Who Helped You “Get Into The Truth” Still Around?
by minimus ini helped, unfortunately, many people to become baptized jws.
recently, over the last few years, i saw many of my students who were still “ in the truth “ lament that i was no longer associating or active in the faith.. i do feel bad that i did such a good job that most of them still are in the cult.. are your teachers still around or did they wise up and leave the lord’s organization?
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new boy
My Nazis Jehovah witness mother dead in 1983. I sure she is up in haven surprised as shit to find out how things really work.
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Physically out Mentally in or POMI
by new boy inthis is one of the saddest places a person can ever be in for sure.
this is were the person is no longer in the organization physically, for whatever reason.
they haven't attended meetings in years.
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new boy
"I have been out for over 40 years, but some of the crap still remains despite efforts to purge it and replace it with the truth about what they teach."
So true Moster, in fact I would have to say very few people get rid of it completely. It's like cancer in remission. You just never know when it could pop its ugly head back up again.
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Physically out Mentally in or POMI
by new boy inthis is one of the saddest places a person can ever be in for sure.
this is were the person is no longer in the organization physically, for whatever reason.
they haven't attended meetings in years.
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new boy
This is one of the saddest places a person can ever be in for sure.
This is were the person is no longer in the organization physically, for whatever reason. They haven't attended meetings in years.
This person was dis-fellow-shipped or faded away. Or maybe they just couldn't live the harsh and demanding day to day life of a Jehovah's Witness. Yet even though the are out from their influence, because of the brain washing they have experienced they still believe the Jehovah Witness story is real/true.
My father was one of these people. He had been "out" for over 30 years when he told me one day out of the blue "I believe it's the truth, I just can't live it!" At the time I was still a PIMO so I snapped back with "Well I can live it, however I don't believe it's the truth anymore!"
So of course it turned out we were both wrong. Me for living the lie and him for believing the lie.
I know of at least two people who had been out for over twenty years and went back in.
The bible has a good analogy for this. "Like the dog returning to its vomit."
To be free at last but still be stuck in the mental confines of a cult, can there be a greater hell? I think not.
So all I can say is, if you are "out" physically, yet your mind is still stuck in their world do yourself a favor.
Go to the internet and study this religion. Look into the real history of this church. Look at the real truth of this organization with all it's false prophecies, "new and old light" and the many flip flops they have made over the years. Look into the cover up of how they deal with pedophiles in their organization.
Then my friends the real truth will become painfully apparent. That this church just like thousands of others out there, is an organization that is ran by delusional men and not by a god.
Keith Casarona
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Physically In Mentally Out or PIMO
by new boy inthere are thousands of people there for sure.
i too was living that life for many years myself.. going through all the motions knowing things were just not right.
yet so afraid of the consequences of leaving the only world i knew.
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new boy
There are thousands of people there for sure. I too was living that life for many years myself.
Going through all the motions knowing things were just not right. Yet so afraid of the consequences of leaving the only world I knew. Your body is there, yet your heart and mind are just are not there anymore.
Back when I too was PIMO, I would just stand in the back of the kingdom hall and look around at all those people sitting there. No one seemed to have a smile on their faces. They were tired too. The years of waiting for the coming destruction so that they/we could finally be happy in the promised paradise had taken its toll. Just how long can you keep sprinting towards the goal line that they seem to keep moving into the distant future?
Yes there were very few really happy people at the Kingdom Hall. Most everyone was "Just hanging in there." We were waiting for.....pie in the sky when you die!
As they say. "Nothing stays the same."
I was the guy in the Ed Sullivan show spinning all those plates on the end of the sticks. Finally the day came and I had to step back, no longer having the strength to keep the plates going...and of course they came crashing down.
When this happened instead of despair, I felt an over whelming sense of relief. There was lost of course.
Yes to my surprise my life didn't end but of course my world had forever changed after taking the "red pill."
So the question is, when do you go from PIMO to POMO or Physically out and mentally out.
Only you can answer that question.
Yet the day will come for many when the plates will no longer spin....
Then your day of freedom will be at hand.
My heart goes out to all of you who are still in the grips of this organization. For I was there too.
Keith Casarona
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Remember The Green Song Books
by new boy inthen new and improved purple song books that came out in 1966. then there was the brown song book and a even newer one in 2006. .
thousands of hours wasted singing those stupid songs and their stupid lyrics.. song 106 "watch how we walk and watch we talk.
i remember inserting different works in the lyrics to relive the boredom.
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new boy
Then new and improved purple song books that came out in 1966. Then there was the brown song book and a even newer one in 2006.
Thousands of hours wasted singing those stupid songs and their stupid lyrics.
Song 106 "Watch how we walk and watch we talk."
I remember inserting different works in the lyrics to relive the boredom.
"Watch how we walk and watch how we stalk."
Are they really praising their god or telling you to be obedient to their leaders, the governing body? You decide.
song 43 – Stay Awake, Stand Firm, Grow Mighty – “Stay awake, and keep your senses, Always ready to obey. Staying alert to Christ’s direction, through his faithful slave to day. Heed the counsel of the older men, Who protect his sheep and truth defend.”
song 63 – Ever Loyal – “Ever loyal to their guidance. When our brothers take the lead, When they give us clear directions, May our mind and heart give heed.”
song 84 – I Want To – “Oh, what help Jehovah God gave, when he sent the faithful wise slave, With whom we serve with joy, Our powers employ, that meek ones we might help to save.”
song 116 – The Light Gets Brighter – “Our Lord has appointed a trustworthy slave, Through whom He gives food in due season. The light of the truth has grown brighter with time, Appealing to heart and to reason. Our path ever clearer, our steps ever firm, We walk in the brightness of day.”
Song 125 – Loyally Submitting to the theocratic Order – “God provides his steward and his active force. These will ever guide us in our Christian course. So may we be steadfast, seeking God to please, Loyally proclaiming all his wise decrees!”
"The Light Gets Brighter – “Our Lord has appointed a trustworthy slave".....really?
Maybe god is on a dimmer switch because sometimes the light gets brighter and then it gets dim again.
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What Do You Think of Socialism?
by minimus indo you support socialism?
is it something that you would want in your country?.
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new boy
You must be kidding.... this country is more socialistic then Russia ever was!
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I just bought an original copy of the 1920s Millions now living will never die.
by Tobyjones262 inso i picked up an original copy of the 1920 millions book.
can anyone give me some of the most crazy wrong predictions in this book?
its a rare book that is a bit hard to find.
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new boy
They changed the title of the book. It use to be called "Millions now living will soon be dead."
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Big Announcement in Montreal
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara injust got the heads up from montreal that 16 congregations will cease to exist from 1 april 2019. also 3 kh are no longer going to be used anymore.
this was a major announcement for many and upsetting.
wonder where the r& f are going to be dispersed with what sacrifices in the way!.
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new boy
One more prophecy is being fulfilled.
"The love of the greater number will cool off!"